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He writes every word. AI makes the music. So who's the artist?
J.S. Clockwise has written poetry for decades, always in rhyme and meter. He self-published a book of poems, and for about a year now he's been turning them into songs with generative AI and releasing the music.
Nick and Jason talk with him about:
- Judging every lyric by whether it sounds like something Leonard Cohen would say
- Why making an AI song means dozens, sometimes hundreds, of versions
- Giving the machine credit for the melody while keeping the words his own
- A fan's autograph request, and a stranger who was sure a song was about her
- His answer to people who say AI music isn't real music
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J.S. Clockwise (guest):
Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/artist/2sxTYK1SCTJ6ojjHj2CpRf
Poetry book, "Forgive This Brief Intrusion" (as Jacob Sheber), Amazon — https://www.amazon.com/Forgive-Brief-Intrusion-Jacob-Sheber/dp/B0F5LKRZ3N